Reviewing Carole & Tuesday: LGBTQ representation and music industry woes

Readers: I thought I’d share a transcript of my recently created podcast, HermannView. Perhaps it could have been a bit more polished, I admit, which is why the second one will be even better! I’m new to this, so suggestions are welcome.


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[Opening:] Hi, I’m Burkely. This is HermannView, a podcast, where I talk about anime, animated shows, archives, libraries and everything in between.

[Introduction:] Hello everyone! I’d like to introduce myself first before getting to the topics for this week. I recently earned a master’s degree in library science, also called a master of library and information Science or MLIS. And a couple of years before that, back in 2016, I earned a B.A. in Political Science with a minor in History. So, some of my podcasts will focus on those topics, while others will focus on my interest in animated shows and anime, which started this past summer and has continued to the present. And with that, let’s get on with the show this week.

[Commentary beginning:] This week, I’d like to talk about a show that I just finished watching. It’s called Carole & Tuesday. It focuses around two characters, one who comes from a very rich family: Tuesday, and another one who is a former refugee, and is often fired from her part-time jobs and is relatively poor. That’s Carole. Both of them are musically inclined. Carole has a keyboard and Tuesday has a guitar. So they’re both drawn together in the first episode of the show. And from then on, the main theme of the show is them trying to climb up the ladder of the music industry. Going from being little-known music artists to becoming a popular sensation. I’ll talk more about that later. About halfway through the show, the 11th episode, is when Tuesday is kidnapped by goons sent by her mother, Valerie, to abduct her and bring her back home. And her mother is a prominent politician who’s running for the presidency of the planet, which in this case is Mars. That means that the show has some sci-fi themes to say the least. [laughs] From then on, that’s episode eleven, the show starts to take more of a political slant in terms of criticism and commentary. Her mother ends up being sort of like the current U.S. president, but also a little like Marie Le Pen in France. That’s what she reminded me of, at least. In that way, the show becomes a commentary because the mother of Tuesday has a very strong anti-immigrant message. This becomes a sort of a sub story of the show, with there also being journalist who’s investigating it. This is tied into Carole and Tuesday trying to move up this music industry ladder.

There’s also a number of other topics which are worth noting. I have this nerdy sort of quest, as I call it, to watch animated shows and anime that have LGBTQ characters. With that, I’d like to highlight a number of LGBTQ characters in the show. The first of them is the agent and parent of Angela, who is a competitor to Carole and Tuesday. While I’m not going to give any spoilers on that, she basically doesn’t have a determinate gender because of the influence of the Martian environment. So she is what they call androgynous or you can call genderqueer or non-binary, whatever label you want to use. They call themselves androgynous in the show. Similarly, there is also Desmond, who is a highly respected solitary artist, and they describe themselves as androgynous also because of the radiation that falls on the planet, noting that they were, “originally a man but am turning into a woman” and are feeling emotionally as a man and a woman at the same time. They later play their last song for Carole and Tuesday, their manager, Gus, and Roddy, who is also one of their friends and a sound technician. However, they later return in the show’s last episode, singing with a bunch of other well-known music stars on the planet. There are also a few other characters, three of whom are bisexual. One of them is Ertegun, who is a major DJ on the planet of Mars. In one of the earliest episodes, he says he has love for “only capable dudes and great chicks.” That means he is bisexual. As the show moves forward, he has a big role as a secondary character.

There’s also Marie and Anne. Marie used to date Gus, who is Carole & Tuesday’s manager. But now she’s in this relationship with Anne, kissing her in front of Carole and Tuesday, surprising them, and both of them plan to get married. Since Anne is implied to have a male partner before Marie, this means that both Marie and Anne are bisexual. The weirdest character in a way, in terms of the fact that she is undoubtedly a stereotype, is Cybelle. [1] She is the biggest fan of Tuesday, but has a pretty dangerous obsession with her. And at one point, bites her on the neck, a la Marceline the Vampire Queen in “Red Starved.” It gets weird. [laugh] Tuesday realizes that she can’t let this person have this obsession with her anymore and rejects her. Cybelle becomes emotional wreck as a result. She puts a present in Tuesday’s dressing room. Inquisitive, Tuesday opens it. She screams, Carole comes running and sees that this present has blown up, injuring her hand. This means she can’t play guitar in the upcoming show. Tuesday still plays a song with Carole despite her arm being in a sling. They sing the first song they came up with together. After that, Cybelle is taken away and we never see her again for the rest of the show! But other than that, other than that character, the LGBTQ representation is pretty good.

Coming back to Cybelle for a second. Cybelle is about as bad as O.D. If any of you have watched Gatchaman Crowds. And there is a character named O.D. who is a horrible stereotype in that show. You could argue they are maybe genderqueer or non-binary. It’s never really established. Cybelle might be better, but it’s not very good representation. Other than that, I like the show a lot and its pacing. Its a very good show in terms of the episodic format, which others, like Steven Universe and Adventure Time have struggled with in the past, having occasional “filler” episodes. I wish Carole & Tuesday was longer and think it wraps up too quickly. That reminds me of what people say about the season five finale of Steven Universe, “Change Your Mind.” People say that the show wrapped up so quickly and they were rushing to get to the end. While this has has some validity, the show still holds together. In any case, the show’s creators, like Rebecca Sugar, moved the story forward quickly due to the possibility they would be cancelled, even over the lesbian wedding in “Reunited.” [2] I’ve read all sorts of different stories and watched different videos about this. So, I kinda know about it a little bit. Despite the problems with Awestruck Vox [he beefed with a fan back in 2017], or Kevin Williams, on The Roundtable, he has some good videos about this that I’d recommend people check out if they are interested. As for the new Steven Universe Future series, which is basically the final/capstone/epilogue series for the Steven Universe franchise, people have said the same thing. In terms of the cast and crew behind Steven Universe, they’re probably going to move into games and comic books and those sorts of things. I seriously doubt that they’re going to move toward any future animated series. Maybe I’m wrong and they will have a new show on HBO Max like Adventure Time. That’s always a possibility. I kind of doubt at this point, but maybe they will surprise me, even having a special on Lars in the Stars [I was trying to refer to “Lars of the Stars” here] or something like that. We’ll see what happens.

I bring this up because people make the same sorts of criticisms when it comes to Carole & Tuesday. Some don’t like the pacing of the show or the fact that all the songs are in English. Building on that, this show is very song-intensive and the songs are in English, English language to be specific, despite the fact that all the characters are speaking Japanese. If you were watching the dubbed version of the show it might not be a problem. But it’s weird if you’re watching the subbed version of the show and then you have these songs in English. That’s an executive decision they made. Moving on, almost every episode has a song in it. Additionally, every episode title in Carole & Tuesday is named after a specific song. I haven’t dug into it that much but every episode title seems to relate to what is happening in that episode specifically. That’s something I haven’t really seen before. While I haven’t watched a show specifically focused on music before, I have watched shows that have musical characters like Marceline in Adventure Time, voiced by Olivia Olsen, a singer, and she sings all sorts of songs.

Nerdily [laughs], in late 2019, I put together her whole music arc. I posted that on Reddit, along with a listing of all the episodes she’s appeared in within all the Adventure Time seasons. And you can put together that into at least 40 minutes of songs that she’s sang during the whole series. That’s only one example of shows that have musical characters. Just take Steven Universe: The Movie as an example. The whole thing is a musical, although not every line of it is sung like Les Miserables. [laughs]. Generally, Steven Universe, is stocked full of songs, although in Steven Universe Future so far, there’s only been a couple of songs that have appeared in the episodes, something which surprised some who had watched the movie. Coming back to Carole & Tuesday, this series specifically focuses on music, which is unlike any other animated series I’ve seen, as I noted earlier. As an additional plus, the show has a lot of LGBTQ representation in it. Furthermore, it focuses on a lot of struggles that people have in terms of getting through the music industry and tries to make the characters more realistic, especially when we come to Carole and Tuesday and the struggles that they have to go through. Although they have all this popularity, begun when Roddy uploads a video of them playing in the Immigrant Hall, which goes viral, they don’t have that much money. Carole is always getting fired from these part-time jobs. Tuesday has a part-time job at a food stand. I think the fame they get at the end is getting them   some money. But they’re really scraping by unlike some of their competitors.

One of those competitors is Angela, who helps them later on. And she has all this money. In fact, she works with Tao, this music producer who uses this advanced A.I., which reminds me a little of Rui in Gatchaman Crowds who has an A.I. and cross dresses. But I’ll talk about Gatchaman Crowds in another podcast in more detail. Back to Carole & Tuesday, let me continue talking about Angela. She doesn’t even come up with the songs she sings. Rather, Tao’s AI comes up with the songs and she just sings them. She doesn’t even write them or anything. She has this immense privilege that Carole and Tuesday don’t have at all. Carole and Tuesday are, in contrast, trying to come up the ladder, without a major record label behind them or anything.

Let me talk about Angela just a little more. In the second half of the show, she has an emotional breakdown almost equivalent to Angela Moss’s breakdown, Angela Moss played by Portia Doubleday, in Mr. Robot. The breakdown happens not in the recent season of Mr. Robot, because I haven’t seen that one, but the one before it. I think Season 4. In the Carole & Tuesday show, Angela not only loses her mother but Tao leaves her. There’s a person who’s stalking her. The so-called Black Knight who spies on her. So she really has a lot of trouble during these episodes, which Netflix divided into two parts, which you could argue are two different seasons. I say it’s all just one, but people watching Netflix probably think of it differently.

Another one of my favorite parts was Episode 9, “Dancing Queen,” where there appeared this Drag Queen quartet, The Mermaid Sisters, and they sing the funniest moment in the whole anime. They sing a 1-minute song named “Galactic Mermaid” with the most expletives ever, which is stopped by one of the judges, and they threaten the judge as a result, for being discriminatory. With that, they should be seen as LGBTQ characters as they call themselves “not men or women” and a “new kind of human” when they perform. I couldn’t stop laughing when listening to it. [laugh] That brings me to another reason to watch the show: comedic elements from episode to episode. At the same time, the show doesn’t always hold together as well. But I still really like it. And I think it is a really interesting show and I would really recommend it to anyone if you haven’t seen it. The episodes are about 22 to 23 minutes long, so you might feel that is too long or you be annoyed by the animated opening. That’s fine. I’d like to stand by the show in this respect however, since the episodes were the right length, in my opinion, and I enjoyed the animated opening, which was the same for the first half of the episodes. Up to episode 11 or 12 there is the same opening at the beginning and then they change it in the last half of the show.

There is one consistent part that stays in the animated opening of every episode: the so-called seven minute miracle, narrated by Gus, where all these musicians come together from across Mars and sing this song of freedom. This happens in the final episode, where Tuesday, her brother, and others have realized that Tuesday’s mother, Valerie, was manipulated by political consultant who wanted her to take all these anti-immigrant positions. So, she drops out. The final episode is the one where they ramped up too quickly, I’d argue. The song they sing is like We Are the World or even like that Simpsons parody where they’re all singing for Bart Simpson in the well in a song titled “We Are Sending Our Love (Down the Well)”. And it turns out to be a total fake, although he later falls down the well himself. You could say that the song in Carole & Tuesday and the idea it will “change” the world is unnecessarily idealistic. Perhaps that is true, but not everything in anime or animated shows is realistic, and there is no reason it should be.

I don’t have anything else to say about the show, except that I like the the realistic elements of it even though it is set on Mars. And some of the sub-stories, about Gus and all his connections, since he was former music producer, is sort of funny, the sleazy DJ, Ertegun, the AI music, Dunn, the father of Carole who finds out she is on Mars or the A.I. robot, which helped Carole and Tuesday produce this music video, which then later ends up to be a scam. So that doesn’t really work out. [laughs] Before ending this podcast, I’d like to focus on the importance of race in this anime. On the one hand, Carole and Tuesday are a multiracial musical duo, since Carole has brown skin and Tuesday has white skin. On the other, the immigrants who are arrested by the equivalent to ICE have the same skin color as Carole, which is part of the reason she is more sympathetic to them, at first, than Tuesday, who has immense privilege without question. I’ve read some reviews which argue there are racial stereotypes in the show itself. Personally, I think the show has some strong brown-skinned, or Black, if you are to use the racial categorization used primarily to refer to those who reside in the United States, characters, like Ezekiel, a rapper who immigrated from Earth and the rest of his “crew.”

There are all these other characters which I find fascinating. One of them is Tobe, a legendary record producer who works for Carole and Tuesday and he is a horrible person, along with being an asshole. Even so, he pushes them forward despite the fact that he really seems like a drunk when they first meet him, a terrifying scene. That scene makes it clear that socioeconomic differences are part and parcel of the show’s themes. Not only is there a clear difference of class between Carole and Tuesday and their competitor, Angela, but when Carole and Tuesday go to the favela, the slum, in the city, they are scared about what will happen to them. Such a response indicates their sensibilities: although they are also poor, they are scared of how others, who are poor, are living. This is more forthright than shows like Classroom of the Elite, for example, which only focuses on struggles between characters, in different school classes, aspiring to enter the highest class in Japanese society, some classes scheming against each other. I don’t want to spoil anything more about that show, but I will say it does focus on struggle between socioeconomic classes, in an allegory of sorts, although Carole & Tuesday is arguably stronger on this point since the two protagonists are relatively poor as I mentioned earlier.

With this theme and others, I would say this show holds together, in general. This is despite the fact it should have been a longer show as I noted earlier. All these these 24 episodes should have been part one. And then, there could’ve been another season. But, that’s not really the direction they wanted to go. The end of the show sets the stage for anyone writing any fanfics about Carole & Tuesday, with already 66 fictional works penned for characters in this anime on Archive of Our Own.

That’s about it. I don’t have anything else to say at this point. I’ve exhausted everything I’ve had to say about Carole & Tuesday and any related shows. Thank you, everyone, for listening. And I hope to see you next week.

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[1] When I tried to add an entry for Cybelle on the Wikipedia page, “List of animated series with LGBT characters” one user, apparently from Ontario, declared that “Cybelle’s sexuality is just as Ambiguous as Pytor and Benito (male mar’s brightest judge). Even the site TV tropes has her as ambiguous” and that “Cybelle from carole and tuesday in 2019 was never confirmed to be a lesbian. Just like Pytor and Benito haven’t been confirmed to be LGBT either.” My original text, which uses episodes 9, 10, and 11 as sources, along with a CBR review, a review in The Daily Dot, and the official character description which simply called her “Mars’ Brightest contestant and Tuesday’s biggest fan”. I used the following text along with classification of her as lesbian:

As Tuesday’s biggest fan, she has a dangerous obsession with her, leading the former to ultimately reject her. Cybelle becomes an emotional wreck because of Tuesday’s rejection, conducting an attack on Tuesday, hurting her hand with an exploding present, in an act of jealousy, minutes before they are supposed to play on stage.

There seems to be some that think she is lesbian on certain subreddits, with some even questioning what gender she is, while others classified her as a “creepy lesbian,” a description which is definitely accurate.

[2] Other articles show how Sugar and others fought for this to be a reality. When I say the possibility they would be cancelled, I think I was remembering this line in an article in The Guardian back in October 2019: “The wedding decision was not taken lightly. Sugar was aware that the episode, as well as her decision to come out as bisexual, could lead to funding being pulled or the show being dropped altogether.” Even that Reuters article, reprinted on another Reuters site, says that Sugar “had to battle for years to include it [the lesbian wedding between Ruby and Sapphire] in her show, which has been censored in multiple countries.”

Steven Universe, vegetarianism, and media representation

My response to how some fans feel about Steven as a vegetarian. Cropped screencap from one of my favorite scenes from “Snow Day”

On December 23rd, “Snow Day,” the 8th episode of Steven Universe Future (herein SUF), the mini-epilogue series to cap out the Steven Universe franchise, apart from possible games, aired on Cartoon Network. Among some fans there has been  anger and annoyance with the line by one of series protagonists, Steven Universe (voiced by Zach Callison), in declaring to his friends/guardians, Pearl, Garnet, and Amethyst, that he has been a “vegetarian for, like, a month,” saying it goes against his character and is “wrong.” I’d like to defend this development, using existing canon, explain its importance in the show as a whole, and media representation of vegetarians. On this occasion, I have to laugh at that article in VegNews which claimed Pearl was a vegetarian because she is grossed out by eating and “…the only thing we see her consume is tea…[and] we’re willing to bet she’s not adding honey or milk, either.” [1] Some of these sentiments are summarized from my Reddit comments.

Let’s start with the episode itself. With that, warning of spoilers ahead for that episode if you have not seen this episode on Cartoon Network or any other platforms. As the episode begins, Steven is overworking himself, waking up early in the morning, preparing for a day full of activities to help those un-corrupted at the end of Season 5, helping them learn how to express themselves and enjoy themselves in a universe free of the repressive rule of dictators (as Steven called them in “Famiilar”), figureheads at this point. He leaves the house without breakfast, only taking a protein shake, decides to not take his novelty backpack, and drives to the school after Pearl bundles him up for the cold, saying he had “errands” to do. When he comes back that night, the Gems (Pearl, Garnet, and Amethyst) greet him, trying to cheer him up, but he rejects their entreaties, rejecting activities and foods (like a pepperoni pizza) he enjoyed in the past. The next day, he wakes up at the same time, rejects his classic meal (a “together breakfast“) as having “too much sugar,” and tries to leave his house, but the snow stops him. As such, all the classes are cancelled and he gets out his notebook to work on changes to the third-quarter schedule. Amethyst sees he is too stressed out and begins a game of Steven Tag, last featured in “Keep Beach City Weird,” a season 1 episode, when each Gem tagged becomes “classic Steven” (i.e. Steven from seasons 1-5), later joined in by all the Gems. The episode ends with Steven, after he is tagged and turns into “classic Steven” criticizing his fellow Gems not seeing him as grown up but rather a kid. They come around to this and rightly apologize to him. He wakes up the next day and travels with Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl, riding all in the car together, Amethyst with her own protein shake!

Perhaps that summary doesn’t do the episode complete justice, but it sets the stage for the next part of my analysis: the importance of Steven becoming vegetarian (not a vegan). Steven is changing and maturing just as the world is changing, as he isn’t the same person as the one who liked shows like Dogcopter (or “pupcopter” which is one for younger children), ate meat, and used a Cheeseburger backpack, like he did in the past. People like the cute, younger Steven but he is 17 years old now and fans should treat him that way. Without a doubt, he is putting a lot of emphasis on his responsibilities and it is stressing him out. You could even say that his rejection of a lot from the past is dangerous. However, he is still making his own choices, just like every character, trying to cope with the stress, as he has “his own skin-care routine” noted by the fandom page for the episode. Steven’s development reminded me of Connie in her debut in “Bubble Buddies,” who talked about how her parents won’t let her eat donuts because they have trans fats, although there is isn’t an exact parallel of course. He seems to be cutting himself off from almost everyone, dedicating himself to his work, with Connie nor Lion making an appearance in the episode. I’ll expand on that a bit later on.

Steven’s choice goes beyond seeing the error of his past ways (being a meat-eater) or the possibility he is like “every teen” now (he isn’t). He was acting within character, as some fans reminded us of how he acted during “Warp Tour” toward the Gems (the debut of Peridot, an autistic character like Entrapta):

In snow day he just gets kind of exasperated with the gems treating him like he’s still 12, which is a totally normal way for him to feel. Part of growing up involves growing out of old interests. In the end he was happy to join them playing the new updated Steven tag and bring them with him to help do errands, and the next episode [“Why So Blue?“] had Steven being his usual happy self enjoying art and dancing and singing and stuff. So Snow Day honestly wasn’t out of character for him imho.

This refutes the claim that he is “out of character” or the supposed “manipulating fan service” that some fans claimed. For those that say its a “betrayal” of his dad or of the saying “if every porkchop were perfect, we wouldn’t have hot dogs,” because that saying is supposed to be symbolic, and he is not the same as his dad, Greg, who can do what he wants. As one fellow user put it,

Steven has always been incredibly sensitive to the welfare of other living things, and that’s only grown as he’s gotten older. Honestly, for years now I’ve been predicting that he’d become a vegetarian eventually, although I wasn’t sure if they would ever actually say so on the show.

To be fully fair, we should have seen it coming. As Leah said on Twitter, this should be a natural confusion based on all the hints in season 1 that “showed he was somewhat uncomfortable with meat.” Certain users have cited the cookout at the end of Change Your Mind, that Steven seemed to eat pepperoni pizza in “Guidance,” and other examples (like eating a hotdog in the openings to Season 1 episodes), we have to recognize that Steven has only been a vegetarian for ONE MONTH, so those examples are mute. Additionally, the time period between “Guidance” and “Snow Day” is not established, but is more than a month, as its assumed to be winter in “Snow Day” but perhaps summer or fall in “Guidance.” Some have said that Sapphire may have made it snow, but I’m not sure she has that power, unless she worked with Lapis, of course, but Lapis didn’t appear in the episode, so I don’t know about that at all. He also had only potatoes and veggies during “Rose Buds” as one user pointed out, another detail worth noting.

Some can say that the episode was “depressing to watch” or grumble about Steven supposedly “starting to become unlikable and that’s not good for your protagonist.” The latter especially is absurd because people disliked him at the beginning (and the show in general) BECAUSE Steven was annoying. As I noted elsewhere, there is no doubt that SUF has a different tone, but Steven and the Gems are trying to deal with the aftermath of their victory in “Change Your Mind,” and enforce the victory, dealing with the changes. Additionally, the Steven Universe franchise, itself, is about people changing. Not everyone stays the same and even though Steven is changing, the other Gems (Amethyst, Pearl, and Garnet) don’t see it or fully recognize it, hence offending him with Steven tag, treating him like a kid. Steven has felt they don’t completely understand him in the past, so this isn’t a new sentiment. Those that say that Steven becoming vegetarian made them “legitimately nauseous” are about as bad as the person who argued with me on Twitter last week. I rather sympathize with a fan who said that the development is on-brand for Steven, adding that:

It shows growth and maturity; it shows that he finally understands the hypocrisy of “everyone is equal” but continues to contribute to animal agriculture. I know everyone won’t agree with me, and that’s okay.

Building upon this, I would say that his switch to vegetarianism, which is a recent development in the show, is an indication, among many others, that Steven is becoming more mature and modified, although not completely different from his youthful self. As one reviewer put it, “the world strikes on and Steven is shifting with it.” Perhaps you could say he is doing a “speed run to adulthood,” but he is growing and changing, with the show striking a much more mature tone. This is understandable because has a lot of work to do to maintain the “established peace across the stars,” disbanding the “tyrannical and colonizing ways” of the Diamonds “to improve Gem life on the Gem Homeworld and Earth,” as it is an ongoing struggle in an imperfect universe.

It’s not flimsy that Steven is vegetarian, its awesome, showing a degree of maturity on his part and a representation of change in and of itself. I don’t need funny memes to tell me that either. Sure, he needs therapy, without a doubt, which is a focus of later episodes. This brings me to the most important part of this post: representation. Before this episode, some of the best representation vegetarians had in animated shows was Lisa in “The Simpsons,” still a canon vegetarian and Stan in “South Park” (not a canon vegetarian), so it should be praised that the Crewinverse and Rebecca Sugar allowed this representation in a show with great LBGTQ representation in the past, meaning that has done a good step forward. More than that, this shows “natural growth, hes becoming a teen and changing” as one user put it, and fits with his generally pacifist attitude and/or adopting the ideals of his mother who seemed to love all living things.

You could say that Steven’s line about vegetarian is a throwaway line. It’s not like Lisa Simpson who had a whole episode dedicated to her vegetarianism (“Lisa The Vegetarian“) where Lisa reaches a compromise with her father, Homer, while spending the “majority of the show being ridiculed and ostracized by her family and friends.” That leads to some songs like “you don’t win friends with salad!” chanted by Bart, Marge, and Homer. At the same time, Lisa disrupts a community event, is “saved” by vegetarians, with her belief tolerated but “for the price of no longer being a vegetarian outcast and being accommodated,” in a show that has a strong tolerance for meat eaters. You could say that Lisa’s moral outrage is muzzled. In fact, if we use Frinkiac as a measurement, the only other episodes that even mention the word “vegetarian” are in Homer’s Phobia (in passing), Blame It On Lisa (Homer tries to convince Lisa to cheat on vegetarianism), Grade School Confidential (Bart threatens her with violating her values), Lisa’s Wedding (a vision of the future), and jokingly elsewhere. This is still often cited as an example of representation in media of vegetarianism and veganism. [2] I think the one critic who noted that while it seems to be preachy, it is “overflowing with great individual scenes: the opening trip to Storytown Village; Lisa’s revelatory moment at the dinner table” with the Meat Council propaganda video as “the funniest isolated segment in the history of the show”:

The fact that Steven is a vegetarian now is positive and fits with existing canon. Its really about damn time for this development, even if it is, ultimately, “pretty insignificant” in the show itself. Likely Steven will be like Mr. Peppy in Futurama: he’ll be vegetarian but not “preachy about it.” Nevertheless, it is worth highlighting, in part because it puts Steven among other noteworthy vegetarian cartoon characters like Tish Katsufrakis in The Weekenders and Aang in Avatar: The Last Airbender, the latter compared to Steven. [3] While it’s hard to say that someone like Marceline the Vampire Queen in Adventure Time is vegetarian, we could easily assume that Perfuma, the hippy princess in She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, is vegetarian, and maybe even Lapis and Peridot in Steven Universe, if they eat food at all, like in my fan fics, lol. Of course, that’s just speculation. On an additional level, this is important due to the “pattern of vegetarians making people uncomfortable in the media” (indicated by annoyance from some parts of the SU fanbase in response in “Snow Day”), along with common “negative representation of vegetarians and vegans in the media.” This episode counters that sentiment on its head. I am reminded of But I’m a Cheerleader, a great film if you haven’t seen it already where the emissary of the conversion therapy camp, “True Directions,” Mike, declares that vegetarianism is a “homosexual tendency.” It’s so absurd I have to laugh.

The fact Steven is a vegetarian is not only confirmed by further developments, like Steven eating a cheese pizza at the end of “Prickly Pair,” but fits with two episodes which aired on December 28, the last two SUF episodes before the beginning of the hiatus, likely less than previous hiatuses in 2019, which was, by far, “CN’s most sparse release schedule for the show as they released the show in three chunks with massive hiatuses in between” as one fan noted in their statistical analysis of the show. We are all, clearly, being Spinel’d, but that’s beside the point, lol. There has been a lot of chatter about these episodes. The first of these, “Little Graduation,” begins with Steven looking happy and overjoyed, a good sign to see due to everything he is been through. But this doesn’t last long: he is quickly depressed by the fact that his friends Sadie and Lars are not together as he had imagined in his mind (he was literally shipping them, like a sizable portion of the fanbase), with Sadie now dating a non-binary individual named Shep (which would may make Sadie pansexual or queer), voiced by Indya Moore, Lars & the Off Colors are going back to space, and sadly…Sadie Killer & the Suspects are breaking up! [4] The latter development is no surprise, however, as Buck Dewey predicted this in “The Big Show” where he said that their rise to stardom will be “followed by the inevitable infighting and creative disagreements that will tear us apart in a beautiful explosion of emotions,” which Greg dismissed as hogwash. It didn’t pan out exactly this way but, the band still broke apart nonetheless. Anyway, in “Little Graduation,” Steven’s emotions get the better of him and he almost kills everyone by suffocation, turning into Pink Steven, including the new graduates with a rose-colored dome, which is only stopped when Shep tells Steven that he needs to figure himself out and give his friends space to grow rather than suffocating them (literally). Symbolically the dome represents, as one fan put it, “Steven’s inner perceptions of reality” since he has always worked hard for his friends, but now his friends are growing up without help from him (and moving on), as he feels neglected, combined with abrasive feelings he has toward his mom along with his own problems. And the toxicity bubbles up into a dome itself.

This episode was one of the best so far, as Steven realizes that not only does the world not revolve around him, but things happen when he isn’t there. At one point, he asks when Lars and Sadie talked, declaring angrily, “but when did this happen? I didn’t see any of this!” to which the response is that it was private, which makes sense. This also pokes at the fact that the show is, basically, all from Steven’s perspective. I think the parallels between Lars leaving Steven and Pink leaving Spinel behind is a good one, which portends problems in the future without a doubt! Anyway, after freeing them and everyone departing, the episode ends as he contemplates by himself, in a scene reminiscent of the ending of “Mother Simpson” as AwestruckVox pointed out in his analysis on The Roundtable. In the latter, Homer sits and pensively stargazes, realizing that “Homer’s long-lost mother may disappear again, but he learns that she loves him, and that’s enough,” with the ending serving as “a model of restraint and a signal to start crying…[and] a sobering reminder of how powerful silence can be.”

The focus on Steven’s issues is continued in “Prickly Pair,” where Steven uses his new hobby, planting, as a form of therapy, connecting with his love of nature and life (another reason he is vegetarian). The Gems see this as clearly unhealthy, as he is naming plants after his friends likely a reference to the “stress free environment” (see up to 1:04 in the video above) created by Billy Rosewood (played by Judge Reinhold) in Beverly Hills Cop 2, and give him space, as he thinks he can solve all these problems himself, bumping through his teen years. This doesn’t work out, ultimately, as he forms a cactus monster who he treated like a therapist, which hurts his friends (or guardians as you could call them), Amethyst, Garnet, and Pearl, not only physically but emotionally as the monster blurts out his personal feelings about them. While the cactus monster, which Amethyst names Cactus Steven, leaves his house, blowing off the front face of it, similar to the damage it sustained during the battle with Blue Diamond in “Reunited,” Steven is clearly in emotionally (and mentally) rocky state by the end of the episode. You could even say that Steven and Cactus Steven represent part of the cycles of abuse. The absence of his father, Greg, his girlfriend, Connie (I hope they don’t break up), and others, is disturbing enough, as the feeling he can’t talk to anyone about problems, likely suffering from depression and other mental problems. [5]

“Little Graduation” and “Prickly Pair” sets up an interesting set of episodes ahead, even if you think SUF isn’t “kid-friendly” anymore (as the fan base is growing up) as Steven will have to come to a more balanced state of mind and body (as he is acting a bit contradictory right now) working out his serious problems, making it possible for him to control his new powers, realizing that he should change, just as everyone else is changing, something he hasn’t completely done yet. This would be much better than forcing others to not change, which is not healthy at all! Whether he talks the Diamonds about this (oh no) or his “uncle” Andy, or someone else about his problems is anyone’s guess. [6] This is nothing new as he had similar struggles as shown in episodes like “Mindful Education,” and other times before that, but the fact that he has the power to hurt others is scary, so I’m excited to see what future SUF episodes will bring. Perhaps Steven should take the advice he told Lars back in Season 5 to heart, although he may not.


[1] At the same time, however, the article listed racial stereotype Apu in The Simpsons, Bobby in King of the Hill, Velma Dinkley in Scooby-Doo, Draculaura in Monster High, Doug Funnie from Doug, Heffer in Rocko’s Modern Life; Dil, Chuckie, and Susie in Rugrats, Pac-Man, Eliza Thornberry in The Wild Thornberrys, Popeye, as some of the greatest “vegan cartoon characters.” So, he got Pearl wrong, but perhaps he got these others right.

[2] Allyson Koerner, for instance, lists Lisa along with Monroe in Grimm, Phoebe Buffay in Friends, Angela Martin in The Office, Sara Sidle in CSI, and Temperance Brennan in Bones. Others list Hazel Grace Lancaster in The Fault in Our Stars, Rachel Berry in Glee, Phoebe Buffay in Friends, Angela Martin in The Office, Elle Woods in Legally Blonde, Britta Perry in Community, Phoebe Halliwell in Charmed, Topanga Lawrence in Boy Meets World, and Todd Ingram in Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World, alongside Lisa as vegan/vegetarian characters. Kristen Martin, on the other hand, notes five fictional vegetarians who “defy stereotypes” while Jamie Gerber explains various superheroes and villains who are vegetarian (Todd Ingram, Damian Wayne, Iron Fist, Connor Hawke, Bruce Banner, Magneto, Zatanna, Scarlet Witch, Superman, Kitty Pryde, Ozymandias, Beast Boy, Karolina Dean, Animal Man, and Wonder Woman).

[3] Some on My Anime List have claimed that Rei Ayanami in Evangelion, Taikoubou from Houshin Engi, herbivores in Monster Musume, a vegetarian elf in Isekai Shokudou, Nadia in Fushigi no Umi no Nadia, characters in Nichibros, Denpa Onna, Kemono Friends, Happy Happy Clover, Hamtaro, and Shirokuma Cafe, the latter three only if animal characters count, along with the Circumstances of a Vegetarian Child Wherewolf.

[4] Some fans adored Shep and loved the representation, while others didn’t get their gender and thought Shep was transgender (there’s no indication that is true), or hated Shep for some reason, the latter falling into the category of “annoying fans.”

[5] I think its worth quoting the psychological analysis of Steven by one fan here, as it says more than I could put forward:

What is happening to Steven right now is a consequence of three situations:

-Being a half gem.

-Being adolescent.

-Trying to carry the weight of other people problems in your back

Why you ask? in adolescence, you try to wonder who you are, what you want to be in the future. And sometimes that bring negative emotions like angriness and confusion.

Before Steven Universe Future, his reason to be was to be a hero, helping others. Now, that reason is partly gone because the worst part of the conflict is over, and even when he still wants to help people, he looks at the lifes of other humans and starts to wonder what else could be.

Thats it because as a crystal gem, fighting and helping comes as something natural; and in the context of their long life spans this objective doesnt seems to change much. In the counterpart, humans tend to change life perspective more frequently because we live less, and our fragility doesnt makes us want to fight intergalactic conflicts (instead, we choose to share with others, get jobs, and try to enjoy life).

In the initial part of the show, things seems “inverted” because humans gave Steven a sense of continuity (“i want this to stay the same”), and gems a sense of something that needs to be changed (“i want this to be different”). When we reach SUF, humans are changing and gems are remaining the same (mainly enemies), so Steven starts to be greatly frustrated.

He doesnt wants to recognize this, clearly, because he is the person that “helps”, not the one that needs to be helped (that would mean he is a burden to others). So, his emotions (anger and confussion, normal for adolescence) start to emerge as unstable powers, which causes a mayhem so big that Steven has to begin to recognize his emotions.

PD: So…if you have superpowers and feel like this…go therapy.

[6] Some fans hope Steven lies on a bed at the end of the series and talks to a therapist, while others just say he needs “serious therapy.”


I am so glad to get one positive comment on /r/stevenuniverse, which makes me smile. I am glad to see it.